tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21083542.post113860243841449862..comments2023-10-30T04:13:46.636-07:00Comments on Witness To Hope - A Young Catholic's Thoughts: Creation of WomanHarrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17845905351822140629noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21083542.post-1139723695359572042006-02-11T21:54:00.000-08:002006-02-11T21:54:00.000-08:00First, if you look in Chapter 1 of the Elohist acc...First, if you look in Chapter 1 of the Elohist account of creation it is God who gives them the title, thus it is God who actually gives the title first, Adam affirms this later in the Yahwist account of Chapter 2.<BR/><BR/>What do you exactly mean by head? And what is it refering to from my post?<BR/><BR/>I totally concur with your second statement, I don't think I presented it elsewise in my post.<BR/><BR/>The emphasis on the bone as that which represents the human person is a very old Jewish traditon. For the Jewish people, the bone represents the human person, so the verse "bone of my bone" can very well mean "being of my being." This is something inharent in Jewish tradition which Christianity comes out of, thus making it a valid way of interpreting the text.<BR/><BR/>-HarrisonHarrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17845905351822140629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21083542.post-1139606827951788172006-02-10T13:27:00.000-08:002006-02-10T13:27:00.000-08:00You said that Adam didn't give Woman here title, b...You said that Adam didn't give Woman here title, but that isn't true: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=2&verse=23&version=31&context=verse<BR/><BR/>I both agree and disagree with what you have posted. <BR/><BR/>I believe that man is the head of woman as that is the authority God gave him as the "firstborn." <BR/><BR/>I believe men and women have individual equality and worth as image bearers of God, but God designed us to have relationship with each other as he has relationship with the other parts of the trinity.<BR/><BR/>I don't see the Hebrew emphesis on bones that you are talking about. The bible does talk about how the blood is the life. There is nothing about bones that are unique to humans - what makes us uniquely human is that God fashioned us with his hands and breathed his breathe into us, where as the rest of creation he spoke into being. Active vs passive creation.<BR/><BR/>-BethanyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21083542.post-1138691289906829392006-01-30T23:08:00.000-08:002006-01-30T23:08:00.000-08:00I forgot, about the other creation of woman.I expl...I forgot, about the other creation of woman.<BR/><BR/>I explained it in earlier posts (you can find them in the Theology section) about the two accounts of creation. The first one, the Elohist text, refers to the objective truths about the human person, those truths which are expressable to us from God and such. The Yahwist account, the second account, is the subjective account, seen from the experiences of Adam and Eve, Original <B>Man</B>. This account looks at the experience of each in a specific and personal way, in a sense, it is a further development of that original truth expressed in the Elohist account.<BR/><BR/>-HarrisonHarrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17845905351822140629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21083542.post-1138690904635291032006-01-30T23:01:00.000-08:002006-01-30T23:01:00.000-08:00When I'm using Man in the bold (which I should hav...When I'm using Man in the bold (which I should have in all the right contexts, I might have missed one) I am refering to all of humanity, so <B>man</B> is completed only with woman, for male and female perfectly complement and complete each other.<BR/><BR/>A single person or a priest is not incomplete. I said that man and woman complete each other with regards to the human person. They each find their total fulfillment within each other. Those who are priests or celibate single people can still have very profound and deep, yet chaste, relationships with people of the opposite sex. They however, have a different calling, in which their calling completes the call. They are a special sign to the world, they represent that end in which we will all share, the reality of Heaven where no one is married, but everyone is in a perfect loving communion. I hope to have answered your questions, if not, please let me know, I can go more in depth and will be touching on the celibate life later on.Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17845905351822140629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21083542.post-1138679228460784602006-01-30T19:47:00.000-08:002006-01-30T19:47:00.000-08:00Another question-- so a priest, or a determined si...Another question-- so a priest, or a determined single person, is incomplete?= because neither matches with a human helpmate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21083542.post-1138616069977268822006-01-30T02:14:00.000-08:002006-01-30T02:14:00.000-08:00I'm confused about two things here. 1) does that ...I'm confused about two things here. 1) does that mean that woman exists to complete man and not as her own complete person? <BR/><BR/>2) what about the other account of the creation of woman, where she's not made from a rib?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com